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Rock 'n' roll 'Psycho'

Puddle of Mudd is atop the rock radio charts and headed for Pensacola for a free show. We talk to bassist Douglas Ardito.

Julio Diaz • jdiaz@pnj.com • April 18, 2008

 

A lot of people wrote Puddle of Mudd off a few years ago. That proved to be a mistake.

 

The popular rock band, which plays a free show at Pensacola Naval Air Station on Thursday, sold more than 5 million copies of its 2001 major label debut, "Come Clean," which featured such huge hits as "Blurry" and "She Hates Me." But the dreaded sophomore slump hit Puddle of Mudd's follow-up, 2003's "Life on Display."

Though the record still sold nearly 1 million copies and spawned a No. 1 rock radio hit in "Away From Me," "Life on Display" was seen as a commercial disappointment, and guitarist Paul Phillips and drummer Greg Upchurch left the band soon after.

More than four years later, everything's different. Core members Wesley Scantlin (guitar and vocals) and Douglas Ardito (bass) regrouped, bringing aboard guitarist Christian Stone and drummer Ryan Yerdon and releasing "Famous." The band's tenacity paid off, and its current single, "Psycho," sits at no. 1 on Billboard's Mainstream Rock and Modern Rock charts.

Ardito spoke by phone to the News Journal about the band's perserverence and the rewards of a life in music.

Q: When "Life on Display" didn't hit as big as "Come Clean," how did that affect you?

A: We were so wrapped up in touring on "Come Clean," it was pretty much constant touring for 18 months. We were writing the second record in the back of the bus, where we had our whole lives to write the first. So, it is what it is. We love that record, there are great songs on it that no one notices unless it's on mainstream radio.

I heard bands like the Smashing Pumpkins aren't even going to make full-length albums anymore, they're just going to make singles because that's what's selling.

Q: How do you define success in this iTunes/file-sharing world?

A: I'd say success is based off of internal happiness, at the end of the day. It doesn't have anything to do with money, it's how much life you live in the time you've got. I'm happy if 100,000 people buy something, I think that's a lot. When you sell 5 million copies of your debut, there's a lot of pressure on you.

I'm totally happy with just playing music live. I'd be doing this even if I didn't sell one record.

Q: After the turmoil of the last couple of years, is it rewarding to return with a big hit?

A: It's rewarding in the sense that people quit the band and people wrote us off, but for someone who has that kind of willpower and tenacity that I have and Wesley has, you can't stop that. If we decide to not make music anymore, then we'll stop, but nobody else is going to stop us.

Q: You started out working with producers Bill Stevenson (the drummer for punk-rock legends Descendents and Black Flag) and Jason Livermore (who produced Rise Against and NOFX), then went in a different direction. What happened?

A: We got a brand new set of people working for us at the label, and they had (producers) in mind. Bill Stevenson had worked with Rise Against, another Geffen band, so we did what (the label) wanted, because at the end of the day, it's still going to sound like Puddle of Mudd. So we hung out with (Stevenson and Livermore) and did a full record's worth of material.

After listening to it, (the label) wanted us to write more songs that might have less of a die-hard punk feel and more of a pop direction. So we worked with Brian Howes on "Faith" and "Famous." And we worked with Howard Benson, who produced Hoobastank and My Chemical Romance, on "Psycho." Bill and Jason produced "Merry-Go-Round," "Livin' on Borrowed Time" (and some other songs). We even had people that worked with pop bands, just to bring out every color of our palette.

I think that's why the record has such a wide spectrum. I think that's what makes it so nice to listen to from beginning to end.

Q: Any plans for the other material you recorded?

A: There's always the next record, but once we move forward, we tend to keep moving forward. It's kind of sad that those songs disappear or become B-sides, but for some reason, if I know (an unreleased) song was recorded 4 years ago, it never seems to work out (later). Somehow, the universe knows it's 4 years old. In my experience, I've never been able to get around that. I believe those songs will probably stay on a hard drive in a vault until we're old fogies and release it as a silly box set when the record company is trying to fulfill our contractual obligation.

But a lot of times, we'll combine two songs we were working on separately and realize they work together. There's no rhyme or reason. Now that you can manipulate with the click of a mouse, it's become such a visual thing that there's no rhyme or reason to how songs are written. For good or for bad, the technology is there and everything is different now.

Q: Is that good or bad?

A: I think sometimes it's bad. The downside is that you can get lazy. Instead of singing over and over until you get it right, you can sing one chorus and paste it in. That could limit creativity. You might lose things that might come out spontaneously if you spent the hours working on it.

You have to have a really strong work ethic to not get lazy with music now. There are no nuances when you just paste things together. Even if you sang the same thing three times, there'd be subtle nuances. When it's an exact replica, it sounds dull. There's something about singing it over again that's human and not computerized and fake. If you don't do that, you lose that human thing that keeps it vibrant and exciting and fresh.

Q: What does playing for members of the military mean to you?

A: We went to Iraq and Kuwait, so just seeing their expressions when you turn up, they really appreciate it. Whether it's there or in Washington D.C. at the hospital, the expressions on their faces mean a lot.

We're always doing things like this, so for us, it's just another day at the office, trying to be there for the kids we grew up with. They might be a different age now, but they're all (like) the kids we grew up with. It's from our hearts to do this.

Q: What can your fans expect at the show?

A: We don't have fire-breathing dragons or all kinds of pyro. I don't think our fans expect that crap. We just get on stage and rock out. Hopefully, at the end of the day, that's what matters.